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Post by Jack on Jul 16, 2010 0:37:10 GMT -4
All of you board members -- get a life. Who gives a nuts if someone walks on the lawn. I might get out there one night and dig it up to prove a point. What are you gonna do?
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Post by El on Jul 16, 2010 1:23:09 GMT -4
This is really important: we own shares here. Not a waystation! If the lawn is ruined, and it does not take much - the building will have shabby "curb appeal" - like a house with a poor lawn. There is a playground down the street and a small area on grayrock - no need for ruining the lawn. On this street, everyone will think: Scarsdale Manor must have financial problems - what happened to landscapers? And : WE ALL pay for the lawn care. I do not understand what is wrong with people who cannot get this? And the sledding has to go too! I If anyone wants a list of where to sled and where playgrounds are, please write!
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Post by El on Jul 16, 2010 1:27:50 GMT -4
OH, BY THE WAY: YES TO A FINE! WHY SO SURPRISED? YES YES YES. IT IS SIMPLE; THE LAWN COSTS MONEY TO MAINTAIN. PERIOD. SO IF OU RUIN A PORTION OF IT, IT COULD BE QUITE A LOT OF WORK. MAYBE ON THE SIDE PARK OFF GRAYROCK A WOODEN PLATFORM COULD BE ADDED WITH A SWING AND A SMALL ROCK WALL -- BUT THAT IS ANOTHER STORY
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Post by block on Jul 16, 2010 8:32:47 GMT -4
I would like to address the issues that were brought up in the July 12th flyer. - The grounds look fine and kids running on them are not the issue. I played on, mowed and cared for a lawn sat our house ince I was a teenager. Kids running on the lawn or waiting for a bus won't destroy the lawn. If they decide to play softball or soccer everyday, the grass can wear down but this does not appear to be the case. Using the area near the sidewalk for sled riding is not a problem. - the landscaping is OK but nothing to send into Home and Garden magazine. Grass, flowers and bushes. I see more large leaved weeds all along the sidewalks which have a worse appearance that any dry spots on the lawn. - If children play and inadvertantly damage a sprinkler head, then it is our responsiblity to make repairs. If parents or guardians allow the kids to damage the sprinker heads through lack of supervision or apathy, then they should bear the cost for repairs. However, there is no lawn police and shareholders "tattling" on others won't hold any water. - I did not purchase my apartment due to the lawn or landscaping. The appearance of the building, particulary the halls and entrances played a small role, with the apartment itself being the major factor. - It might be interesting to pole the shareholders and ask them what is the primary entrance they use day in and day out. I bet that most people rarely walk out the front entrances since their cars are likely always in the garage or along Greyrock. If that is the case, wouldn't it be nice if we didn't need to walk past the smelly and ugly garbage and recyclables containers. Would'nt relocating them elsewhere on the sidewalk be more important to the value of our properties than whwether the front lawn if pristine. Also, while i am at it, it would be nice if the landscapers plant more attractive flowers along the back sidewalk - the purple flowering plants are too far apart and not very attractive - much worse than last year. - One can't ignore the fact that Scarsdale Manor attracts families or couples hoping to create families. The continued turn over of the two bedroom apartments is indicative of this. Everyone needs to understand that toddlers are here to stay and need space to run and play. The south end, back area is a place for them to play together but is limited and could be made better. There are two benches, one had a slat missing for months. A couple of months ago, person claiming to be a board member asked my wife and another shareholder what can be done to make the area better and help keep kids off the front lawn. They responded that a picnic table would be a great idea. No changes yet. - Everyone must remember that South, back area is not a kids only area. I have witnessed folks smoking on the benches when kids are play. Though it is the smokers right to be there, you can't blame the mothers from not wanting to have their children exposed to cigar smoke. - The Board should consider a visit the playground near the ballfields with parents and discuss the pros and cons of the area and determine whether it makes snese to petition the Town of Eastchester to make changes. for example, since the recent removal of a large tree at the site, the sun and heat at the playground is unbearble during the afternoon hours. The slides, monkey bars, etc. get boiling hot and can scald little children. Therefore, the only place with shade is the South, back grassy area. - I recommend that the board put this item on the agenda for an upcoming meeting and solicit the attendance of both sides on the issue. We have a diverse community who need to work together on issues like this and stop complaining. Complaints are easy to make; complaints with reasonable solutions are not. - By the way, as other writers have mentioned, lets not all get on our high horse quoting rules especially they are selectively enforced.
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Post by Dj on Jul 16, 2010 16:04:01 GMT -4
I find it pretty amusing that Lake Isle Golf Course will allow children to sled on their lawnwith no worries and Scarsdale Manor claims that sledding destroys the lawn.
I also find it amusing that it is implied in the letter from the board member that the brown patch on the lawn is from children running on it. Over half the lawns in Eastchester have brown patches due to the excessive heat recently. Is there anything else you would like to pin on the children of Scarsdale Manor?
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Post by marzipan on Jul 16, 2010 21:56:09 GMT -4
Why single out people who use the lawn for breaking the rules. If we're going to enforce the rules, let's enforce ALL the rules: No animals--how many people have cat's in violation of the rules. No items on doors -- how many people have flowers, Mezuzzas, drawings, etc. No items in hallways --statues, carpets. No junk in garage -- people have stuff behind their spaces. I'm sick and tired of board members who send out pronouncements SELECTIVELY announcing rule enforcement. BRAVO!!!
I especially HATE it when people litter the hallways with their flyers promoting THEIR AGENDA.
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Post by tmaxwell5h on Jul 19, 2010 15:09:19 GMT -4
Whats the point of having a nice courtyard if you can't enjoy it? on nice days I go and sit in the sun on the bench at the bus stop! how horrible!
I would love to be able to sit and enjoy the seasons on a bench on my own property (our property) - who else wants a bench in the courtyard to enjoy the days/evenings on?? I'll personally put $100 in towards buying the bench.
Tom - President of the Fresh Air Movement at Scarsdale Manor
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Post by Guest on Jul 25, 2010 9:51:25 GMT -4
Why single out people who use the lawn for breaking the rules. If we're going to enforce the rules, let's enforce ALL the rules: No animals--how many people have cat's in violation of the rules. No items on doors -- how many people have flowers, Mezuzzas, drawings, etc. No items in hallways --statues, carpets. No junk in garage -- people have stuff behind their spaces. I'm sick and tired of board members who send out pronouncements SELECTIVELY announcing rule enforcement. Well Mezuzzas are religious and the statues, flowers in front of doors make the hallways look nice. I would think at least a third if not more of the residents have cat's and some birds and they don't bother anyone. Westchesters pet law is the same as NYC and after three months of having the pet the law is in favor of the pet owner. Also the cost of litigation to remove pets and fight fines is not something the board would want to incur or the backlash from the many pet owners this co-op has. This is of course within reason; as long as the pet is not a dog!!!!
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Post by John on Jul 30, 2010 1:04:09 GMT -4
Well Mezuzzas are religious and the statues, flowers in front of doors make the hallways look nice.
I would think at least a third if not more of the residents have cat's and some birds and they don't bother anyone. Westchesters pet law is the same as NYC and after three months of having the pet the law is in favor of the pet owner. Also the cost of litigation to remove pets and fight fines is not something the board would want to incur or the backlash from the many pet owners this co-op has.
This is of course within reason; as long as the pet is not a dog!!!![/quote]
The board should not want the cost of litigation from little kids who step on the lawn either. Either enforce ALL THE RULES, or lets have a free for all. No selective enforcement. If the rules are not going to be enforced, they should be ELIMINATED
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Post by Guest on Aug 10, 2010 21:27:20 GMT -4
As a resident who has lived here for almost seven years, I admit that I have at times, walked across the lawn as a shortcut, whenever work was being done on the building and I was in a hurry to catch a train. I did not think that my actions hurt the lawn in any way. I have always admired our lawn. I think that it is a big selling point for the complex. I have often passed the circular section on my way to the 198 building and wondered if we could come up with designated days when residents could bring chairs to sit on and enjoy it. It would be nice after paying so much for its upkeep to be able to enjoy it for just a few days during the summer season. We may be able to organize a concert or two by a local classical quartet or small orchestra.
this would be a great way to get to know each other and enjoy the lawn without damaging it . Many times, I have had guests comment on how nice the lawn looks while making suggestions on ways to use it. When I explain the rules, they always say that they understand but it is so inviting. Using it sparingly in a cooperative manner may be a way to satisfy everyone.
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Post by Intrigued on Dec 27, 2010 22:24:25 GMT -4
I seriously can't believe a "No Sledding" sign was placed on the lawn or I should say on the snow pack. Does anyone honestly believe that children sledding on snow will destroy the lawn? As someone stated earlier in this thread, this is not an assisted living facility. It's a complex with many families and children and it's not like you have 20 kids at a time sledding down the hill. It's a great opportunity for the young ones to enjoy themselves here. I can understand somewhat keeping them off the grass during the summer, but off the snow in the winter? Let's try to make this building known as a family friendly environment, not a one full of scrooges and malcontents. By the way, just out of curiosity, how many people here have ever lived in a house with a lawn before? Did the grass die when you walked across it?
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Post by HUGO on Dec 28, 2010 14:08:06 GMT -4
The saga continues, where was this person several months ago. Here we go again.
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